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jordan
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at what time did you guys' tank start to gain in ammonia, because i don't know if mine is slow or not. Thanks for the post and if you know of any way to speed up the process please do inform me.
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jennifer
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Ammonia starts to build up in a week or so. You can speed up the process (or even bypass it entirely) by adding gravel, rocks, or filter media from another well-established tank, if you have access to one.
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jordan
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cool i think i also found this product, stress zyme that speeds up the process quite a bit or something.
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rheann
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Jordan, don't use Chemicals to speed up the process in your tank! Here, check this link and make sure the products you use are safe to put in your tank. If it is not listed, don't use it. I would not try and speed it up with chemicals. I would go by Jennifer's advise if you can, or just wait a little longer. Please visit this link:
http://axolotls.org/health.htm#list
http://axolotls.org/health.htm#list
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joan
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Stress Zyme is totally useless. It has billions of bacteria, sure, but they're all dead. Dead bacteria don't colonize. The only legitimate bacterial-culture starter that I know of is Bio-spira. It's refrigerated (this keeps bacteria in a 'suspended', non-feeding, non reproducing state, so they don't use up all their nutrients and die in their own waste), and expensive. Why buy something when you can do it for free?
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aimee
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Hello all
I've had my axolotl in a plastic container for over a week now as my tank cycles. When I originally set the tank up, about 20% of the water was water from an old fish tank. His new tank (the one cycling) has been set up for over 3 weeks now.
Ammonia was present immediately and, at first, I fought to keep it down. I did daily water changes and used Amquel as well. Eventually (after seeking consult on this forum) I decided to just let the process take its course.
My question is: when is ammonia supposed to start regressing? This entire time ammonia levels have been relatively constant and nitrite hasn't presented itself at all yet. Shouldn't ammonia have started regression by now and shouldn't I be seeing nitrite levels rise? Its been 3 weeks with nothing but ammonia.
At first I thought that maybe it was the Amquel I put in the tank two weeks ago that has kept this from happening, but the product didn't seem to affect ammonia levels in the slightest.
What do you guys think?
I've had my axolotl in a plastic container for over a week now as my tank cycles. When I originally set the tank up, about 20% of the water was water from an old fish tank. His new tank (the one cycling) has been set up for over 3 weeks now.
Ammonia was present immediately and, at first, I fought to keep it down. I did daily water changes and used Amquel as well. Eventually (after seeking consult on this forum) I decided to just let the process take its course.
My question is: when is ammonia supposed to start regressing? This entire time ammonia levels have been relatively constant and nitrite hasn't presented itself at all yet. Shouldn't ammonia have started regression by now and shouldn't I be seeing nitrite levels rise? Its been 3 weeks with nothing but ammonia.
At first I thought that maybe it was the Amquel I put in the tank two weeks ago that has kept this from happening, but the product didn't seem to affect ammonia levels in the slightest.
What do you guys think?
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cynthia
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Aimee - The time it takes for the cycle to complete varies, sometimes a lot.
What kind of test kit do you have? The liquid test kits have worked better for me than the dip strips.
If your liquid test kit is old it might need replaced.
I have never used Amquel so I did a quick google on it. http://www.novalek.com/kpd51.htm
AmQuel quickly and effectively removes ammonia, chlorine and chloramines (three of the most toxic chemicals commonly found in aquatic systems) from freshwater and salt water. AmQuel is the first to be a true one-step liquid ammonia and chloramine remover that is simple to use. AmQuel is completely unlike declorinators which claim to "remove" chloramines. These products only break the chlorine-ammonia bond of chloramines by simple dechlorination, leaving the ammonia in the water. The resulting ammonia must be removed by bacterial action which can take days or weeks or by adsorption on granular or powdered zeolites (clinoptilolites). In addition, AmQuel functions as well in salt water as it does in fresh water; whereas zeolites do not remove ammonia in salt water. For detailed information on AmQuel's chemical structure click here: KPD-58, AmQuel-How It Works
So that sounds like maybe the amquel is keeping your tank from finishing the cycle by rendering the ammonia unable to break down and bring a rise in the nitrite. You want the bacterial action.
Can anyone with Amquel experience help clear this up for us?
What kind of test kit do you have? The liquid test kits have worked better for me than the dip strips.
If your liquid test kit is old it might need replaced.
I have never used Amquel so I did a quick google on it. http://www.novalek.com/kpd51.htm
AmQuel quickly and effectively removes ammonia, chlorine and chloramines (three of the most toxic chemicals commonly found in aquatic systems) from freshwater and salt water. AmQuel is the first to be a true one-step liquid ammonia and chloramine remover that is simple to use. AmQuel is completely unlike declorinators which claim to "remove" chloramines. These products only break the chlorine-ammonia bond of chloramines by simple dechlorination, leaving the ammonia in the water. The resulting ammonia must be removed by bacterial action which can take days or weeks or by adsorption on granular or powdered zeolites (clinoptilolites). In addition, AmQuel functions as well in salt water as it does in fresh water; whereas zeolites do not remove ammonia in salt water. For detailed information on AmQuel's chemical structure click here: KPD-58, AmQuel-How It Works
So that sounds like maybe the amquel is keeping your tank from finishing the cycle by rendering the ammonia unable to break down and bring a rise in the nitrite. You want the bacterial action.
Can anyone with Amquel experience help clear this up for us?
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joan
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I think Cynthia's on the right track with that. I wouldn't use an type of dechlorinator, ammonia blocker, nitrite remover, etc while cycling (as it interferes with the 'food' for the bacteria (ie: ammonia!)). You want to grow lots of bacteria, so you need adequate amounts of ammonia. Dump in water and some axolotl poo and leave it for a while and let it cycle.
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