C.orientalis question

[Black leaves]

Hi, i just wondering can i fill up my 1'x0.8'x1' aquarium with water. Will my FBN be happy because i'm worried that my FBN cannot find food.... Please help....

 

[evut]

Hi, do you mean that he is terrestrial now? In that case it's a bad idea to put him in a tank full of water at once. I think you should write a bit more about how you keep him now, maybe post some pictures and describe what you want to change. People will be able to help you then.

 

[Azhael]

That´s a small tank. You need a minimum of 40l for even a single Cynops orientalis in order to provide good, stable conditions.
If he is terrestrial now you might have to introduce him to water slowly, but once it becomes aquatic, yes, you can fill the tank (get a bigger one, though) with water. It won´t need any land as long as you provide him with good conditions. Just to be on the safe side, you can put a piece of floating cork bark for it to climb onto if so it chooses.

 

[Zac]

That´s a small tank. You need a minimum of 40l for even a single Cynops orientalis in order to provide good, stable conditions.
If he is terrestrial now you might have to introduce him to water slowly, but once it becomes aquatic, yes, you can fill the tank (get a bigger one, though) with water. It won´t need any land as long as you provide him with good conditions. Just to be on the safe side, you can put a piece of floating cork bark for it to climb onto if so it chooses.

Azhael, may I just ask, where do you get most of your information from? Because with all the caresheets I've read, they all state that 1 or 2 C. Orientalis need a minimum of 10 gallons.

But, when I went on wikipedia, the Japanese fire belly newt care sheet stated a single JFBN needs a 2.5 gallon tank? The Chinese fire belly newt caresheet doesn't tell us much about it.

Cheers
Zac

 

[Azhael]

I got it from my own experience in keeping and breeding this species and from the shared experienced of all the good people in this forum. And logic too, of course...

Never trust wikipedia...i could go and write that they NEED to have two 5cm long pieces of bambu in the shape of Annubis in order to reproduce.....and people would believe it....¬¬

The 10gallon rule has both the animal´s and the keeper´s interest in mind. The animals need space and stability, obviously. The keeper needs a tank that doesn´t require daily maintenance...thus having a decent enough volume of water guarantees that the tank, if properly maintained, will pretty much take care of itself.
Try it with a 2,5 gallon at tell us about it...i bet you that you´ll have problems constantly.

I have a 60l tank VERY heavily planted with 6 C.pyrrhogaster and i barely have to remove organic debris once a month or so...it regulates itself with a minimum of care from my part. It´s not even a big tank for 6 pyrrhogaster. If i tried that with a smaller tank i can tell you it wouldn´t work at all.

 

[shredder83]

I have to agree with Azhael, a 2.5 gallon tank will be nothing but trouble. I speak from personal experience on that. I was given bad advice when i started with newt and lost my first two in a very short period of time.
I have a single C.orientalis right now i kept him in a 10 gallon for over a year but now I keep him in a 20 long.
The more water you have makes for a better chance of maintaining a stable environment.
I have a magnetic Island at one end of the tank and a home made filter with a rock platform on top of it at the other so he can leave the water if he chooses to. ( maybe once a week if he feels like it.)