C. cyanurus eggs

[TJ]

Call it luck if you will

but I succeeded in the "Herculian" (?) task of breeding this species...in the space of half an hour!

Today I received my first cyanurus, courtesy of Angus, and they behave as if they suffer no stress whatsoever from their two-day journey to my home. Hopefully more eggs are on the way..

Regarding any other Chinese Cynops that might have come my way, I'd prefer to discuss them in a separate thread

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(Message edited by TJ on October 08, 2004)

 

[ralf]

I guess this must be called "speedspawning".

Keep us updated on their development.

 

[benjamin]

You always manage to take the best pictures.

 

[TJ]

Sure thing, Ralf. And hey, any time you want cyanurus breeding tips from me, don't hesitate to ask

(I hope everybody knows I'm kidding...)

Would somebody please point me in the direction of some cyanurus larvae pics?

I've read the posts regarding their rapid speed of development and the quick return to the water after morphing

Benjamin, thanks!

(Message edited by TJ on October 07, 2004)

 

[benjamin]

Are these the supposed Cynops chengongensis that angus was going to send you?

 

[TJ]

"separate thread" (see above)

These here are (and are intended as) nothing other than C. cyanurus.

 

[edward]

Hi Tim,
I had posted one awhile back of an older larva. Keep the larva in small groups and keep live blackworms in with them. You will be surprised at the growth rate (They can be as big as an average sized C. orientalis before they metamorph). The ones I have reared in the past very few went terrestrial at metamorphosis and then only for a couple of days.
Let me know how you make out.

Ed

 

[nate]

Nice Tim, are those nominate cyanurus?

So please feel free to start a new thread on the "chenggongensis" complete with photos at all angles

 

[TJ]

Seems the main interest lies elsewhere

Nate, I am assuming these are nominates until told otherwise. But I'll put some pics up soon (as well as pics of the "chenggongensis".

Ed, thanks for that info.I don't have access to blackworm but I suppose tubifex will do. Are they too fussy to eat frozen bloodworm?

I still only have the one egg though. Woke up this morning expecting to find more. Ah well...

The egg has been removed for safekeeping.

(Message edited by TJ on October 08, 2004)

 

[edward]

Hi Tim.
I never tried the frozen bloodworm route as the blackworms worked so well I didn't want to mess with the process. Also in small containers (I use about a quart of water per larva) I tend not to like frozen bloodworms as they foul the water quickly while live blackworms (and tubifex) will stay alive in small quantities until eaten. I just pour out the about 50% of the water everycouple of days and replace with aged water. I also try to keep either some water sprite or java fern alive in the containers (and have used Java moss in the past).

Ed

 

[paul]

Great pics Tim, let us see more of them

Paul

 

[TJ]

I usually start with brine hatchlings, switch to tubifex and then switch again to bloodworm as they develop. The worry I have with tubifex is that besides the introduction-of-disease risk factor, when the worms are in bad shape they can quickly foul the water if not monitored carefully. That's why I like to switch to bloodworm when the larvae take to it. I will provide the cyanurus larvae with ample water volume, live plants, and even filtration. That should guard against any potential worm-related problems. Thanks for the tips!

(Message edited by TJ on October 08, 2004)

 

[TJ]

Nate, I take that back about assuming they are nominates as I just don't know, and I just heard that nominates are rarer than yunnanensis

Here's another shot of the egg:

Still only the one

 

[benjamin]

It looks like it's developing a bit. What's making all the bubbles?

 

[TJ]

Yeah, seems to have changed color already.

The bubbles are just condensation/moisture.

It's in a stacked plastic tray

 

[TJ]

Here's one of the males:

 

[benjamin]

Still only one egg?

 

[TJ]

Yep. Real teases, they are

 

[TJ]

Belly shot of same male:

(Message edited by TJ on October 09, 2004)

 

[benjamin]

The belly shot of this guy looks alot different from the "chengongensis" belly shots on the other thread. I guess you'll have to be extra careful with that one egg.