Albino Tiger?

[duo]

Is therre such a thing? At this pet store by my house they have this poster with rare albino and i saw a tigeer slamander is this aa real picture does anyone have an albino tiger salamander?

Thanks
Duo

 

[rob]

Duo,

If you do a quick search of the forums before posting your questions you'll usually find the answers.

 

[duo]

i'm sorry. so where do i go?

 

[rob]

Hi Duo,

Do you see at the top of the screen? If you look, the fourth item in the top row has a magnifying glass and says "Search" next to it. It brings you to a search page that allows you to search the entire site for any information you're looking for.

In fairness, I did not mean to single you out, as many people ask questions that have been answered over and over and a simple search would find. I recommend all new users to first check with a search if their questions have been answered before posting them.

As for albino tiger salamanders, it is true they exist, but are only randomly caught form the wild since no one has been successful in breeding tigers in captivity.

If you want to read interesting information about an albino tiger salamander check out the Indiana Axolotl Colony's web page and find out how albino axolotls were created using an albino tiger salamander.

I hope this helps.

 

[duo]

THANKS DUDE!!!!

 

[francesco]

Hi Rob
Well, me and a friend of mine have actually bred a. tigrinum last spring. We placed 2 males and 2 females in a 7mx2m tank after a cooling off period. Water was 40 cm deep. They produced several hundreds of eggs.
Cheers
Francesco

 

[rob]

Hi Francesco,

Please share detail information and photos of this achievement, as you would be the first person to ever successfully breed them.

 

[nate]

7m X 2m?? That's enormous. Was this outside? Were the eggs fertile?

 

[francesco]

Sorry but I havn't got pictures.
Yes Nate we did it in my friend's garden. He's called Stefano Gozzo and probably some people from Europe know him because we came to Gersfeld a couple of years ago. He already breeds axolotls. The tank is made of bricks and lined with a large piece of canvas. The eggs were all fertile and infact he has some metamorphosed individuals for sale on www.axolotarium.com
I must say he already bred them years ago but that was more a combination of luck. Infact he tryed the following years without any results. One day talking to another guy interested in amphibians he told me that tigrinum are more difficult to breed compared to axolotls cause they need more space. So I suggested Stefano to put them in one of the tanks he used for the axolotls instead of a normal aquarium. As I said in the previous post the animals were chilled at 5°C for 2 months in a refrigerator. The 2 females laid hundreds of eggs.
Ciao

 

[rob]

Oh, out door breeding. Many people, myself included, would consider that a farmed animal and not a CB animal.

It's still a great step in the right direction, and should your friend attempt it again make sure he is taking many photos and writing in depth details about what he's doing at each stage.

 

[nate]

Yeah, it's difficult to know where to draw the line with captive breeding and farming. A lot of people claim to breed Ambystoma because essentially wild animals happen to lay eggs in an artificial pond in their backyard, for instance. But it seems this is a bit different. Pretty interesting.

 

[jennifer]

Hmm, it's not clear (in my mind anyway) what constitutes captive breeding versus farming. Clearly if you have an open pond and you stock it with sals and they breed, that is NOT captive breeding. If you have a tank in your house with long-term captive animals and they lay fertile eggs, that surely IS captive breeding. But once you put a tank/enclosure outdoors, you get all sorts of intermediate scenarios.

Is there any form of outdoor keeping that would be considered CB? If you keep axies in an outdoor pond and they lay eggs, is that farming or captive breeding? What if the animals are kept outdoors only part of the year?

Considering that the animals were long-term captives, the hibernation period was indoors, and the animals were completely enclosed outdoors, I would be inclined to call it captive breeding. But maybe I'm lacking a good definition of true captive breeding.

 

[francesco]

There's been a misunderstanding.
The animals were kept indoors (fridge) for the winter and then put in a huge tank(from which they couldn't escape) to breed. After that they returned indoors. They weren't wild in his garden and breeding in a pond.
However, I'd call it captive breeding, but it could be defined as farming too.
What I wanted to say is that these animals bred.
If you want next spring I'll give you more news.

 

[juraj]

I think of farming as outdoor breeding in enclosure situated in place of original range.
So outdoor bred axolotl in Canada is more "farmed" than outdoor bred one in Italy. The second one is more "captive bred" , I think.

 

[duo]

what happened to my Topic LOL