After 8 months...

[OZIRIS]

Hello guys, here are new pics about my little cynops orientalis, after 8 months since hatching. They are beginning to learn how to be aquatic again.

Juvie 1:

Eating time

Juvie 2:
Targeting...

Ñam!

Ñam2!

Compared with 1 euro,and on my hand

Very nice colour in its belly

Cheers

 

[Azhael]

They are looking very nice, congratulations!
I´d be very wary of the possibility of drowning though...by the looks of them they are still rather small, and there is a big risk of drowning before they reach sexual maturity. I think it would be advisable to wait until they are bigger to get them to be aquatic. Even if they appear to use the water area, there is a risk (i should know, i lost my first grown on juvenile that way).

 

[Lusiwarrior]

Spectacular! Good luck with them!

 

[huug]

Oziris, They look great, well fed!
Thanks for the pics, a joy to look at!

I heared of people who raised cb Orientalis with the breedinggroup.
That suggest that they can be raised aquatic....from a small size on already.
Only the difference is that once ther are well dried up they will drown sooner,

But still i think such an aquatic species should be not to hard to get aquatic.
I know from exprience that Taricha and Triturus are pretty easy to get aquatic from moprh size on already!

Still i can not say anything from experience with the actual specie, but i think Triturus and Taricha are not much different, maybe even harder to get aquatic once they dried up!

But correct me if i am wrong

 

[Joost]

Well, I've raised C. orientalis fully aquatic, without any problems

 

[End]

Beautiful pictures and beautiful animals, congratulation
mine has become acquatic at the same age more or less (6 to 8 months old) , on other side i have 2 C.Orientalis at one year old and completely hydrophobic (not because of bad water chemistry or over crowded tank).

 

[OZIRIS]

Thanks all for comments

I have been watching their behaviour during these 8 months. Firstly, they didn't visit the water dish at all. Then, they began to go to it more often, water dish appeared dirty, cocoa fiber inside. Well, after long time by this way, I decided to reduce land area and offer them more water, with rocks where they could be attached in case they weren't able to swim. Watching them, I could see how they started to breathe being underwater, putting their heads out of water surface, and eat too, but they are used to eating with tweezers, so, they haven't been able to find food alone yet, they are trying.

I'm looking forward the moment they'll go to water again, but they still like spending time on land. I hope they don't drown, they are doing it very well.

About raising newtpoles with adults, I have other bunch growing with their parents and 1 or 2 are expected to morph during this week. Well, I don't know what to do, because I'll be travelling and my parents are going to take care of them. It's a big problem because I don't know if the recent morphs will want to be out or if they could live in the tank with no land area... >_< Of course, I would like they remain aquatic, anyway I'll prepare a tub for the new ones.

New pics, larvas-adults living together

Cheers

 

[PereJosa]

Congratulations Oziris!! beatyful newts. Muy bonitos los bichos, y las fotos

 

[ed_moyer]

Good job!! I been raising them aquatic for over 20 year's ! I use a fake lily pad for them to sit on but mostly they stay in the water!

 

[Azhael]

I wonder if the different experiences we have in raising this species might be caused by differences in ecology and behaviour of different populations. Perhaps the orientalis from certain areas are more prone to becoming aquatic during development, and others have an extrict eft stage. This happens with other species...and, well, C.orientalis has a large area of distribution, and there's very little information on their natural ecology.

 

[OZIRIS]

Congratulations Oziris!! beatyful newts. Muy bonitos los bichos, y las fotos

Thanks Perejosa


A newly morph is coming, it is still in the main tank with adults and has hidrophylic skin but it wants to go out, sometimes I can see it climbing the glass and other it is underwater, and it's driving me crazy! I don't know whether I can keep it in this way and it will adapt to be aquatic, or put it out in a terrestrial set up. :uhoh:

Cheers

 

[huug]

Oziris,

I experienced morphs climbing the glass in several species which i raised aquatic.
Even now i have Triturus marmoratus and Triturus arntzeni and Taricha granulosa climbing glass at certain moments, still i am raising them aquatic for months now.
And they are doing fine!

In the first week you'll see them climb the glass the most, it will get less in time!

Hope this helps a bit...

 

[OZIRIS]

Thanks huug, It is just what I wanted to read.

 

[OZIRIS]

And the circle is completed. :_D

One of them spends lot of time underwater, even eating live daphnia. It' double in size since the pics above. It seems to be a female too, but maybe it's to soon to know it.

 

[Joost]

You're right on the gender. It's indeed a female.

 

[PereJosa]

Very good job,Oziris.

Adios!

 

[AllyTK]

Really nice looking bellys how big do these guys go just out of morbid intrest?

 

[OZIRIS]

They are around 7 cm, and they took around a year to grow till this length.

 

[froggy]

Fantastic work! This is a good news to start the day with!

 

[OZIRIS]

Fantastic work! This is a good news to start the day with!

Thanks froggy, these are my first little adults :_)