A. barbouri/texanum question

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I have found myself more interested about various ambystoma species ever since I got Petranka's book, and I noticed that Mike G has quite a few A barbouri posts. Mike, from the post below, did you find those barbouri and texanum from the same location?? That's pretty amazing, since Petranka only recognized 3 or 4 specific zones that are common to both species at the time of his publication. Maybe since that time, more areas have been located - or of course you may have just been lucky? Also, I'm curious to see how you differentiated between the species if indeed they were at the same location.

http://www.caudata.org/forum/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=985&post=19795#POST19795

(By the way, it looks to me that Ohio appears to be the Ambystoma capital, There are probably more species of them there than in any other state)

 

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Thanks for the info.

I think I will do some March herp viewing in Ohio this year. I would really enjoy getting photos of even the species that are considered "common" like texanum and jeffersonianum. I have never seen these except in pictures. I was really surprised to find how much earlier the breeding can take place in Ohio compared to Michigan.

 

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Oh, man, I can't believe it. I was originally planning on driving down this weekend, but then saw that the weather seemed to be unseasonally cold all around, and I noticed that snow storms had been happening (I thought as far south as southern Ohio). So I was going to wait yet another week!
I can't believe I missed it. I am only 4 hours north, and we have been having really cold weather (under 10 degree nights), so I figure we are still a long ways away yet.

Do you really think that there will be no adults left around the breeding spots for tigrinum and jeffersonianum? I figure at least that in the more northern areas of the state it is still going on (although of course the Jeff. sals are absent far north). Like I said, I would be very content with seeing just a few texanum.
I usually see the maculatum breed in Michigan, they seem to be the only ones I really witness the large gatherings for.

I think with this news that I will try to make a one day trip out of it tomorrow, cold or not. I really want a chance at seeing something down there!