Jan
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I'm hoping that we can start a discussion on this - not for amphibians in general but for caudates in specific. The class, amphibia, is too large and encompasses diurnal/basking species which would seemingly have different requirements and tolerances for UV light. If we could limit the discussion to caudates….but then on the other hand, there may not be much of merit to discuss, as there are little hard data available.
There are several considerations that come to my mind when discussing UV light needs. A few of these:
•What is the natural UV light environment inhabited by the species
•Sensitivity of the skin to UV light and resistance to UV damage. I believe that in lizards there are varying degrees of sensitivity e.g., nocturnal leopard geckos vs. bearded dragons, green iguanas, etc. that suggest different UV needs. Snakes I believe also vary in their need for UV light. Does the same exist for caudates and does the caudate skin secrete photo protectants (assumable to some degree?)… and does this vary by species.
•Do caudates which are mostly nocturnal, need UVB to synthesize/activate vitD or can this vitamin be adequately supplemented in the diet.
•If needed, how much UV is needed? At what levels and for what time period. It would seem that even nocturnal animals are exposed to some low levels of diffuse or reflected UV light when in hiding during the day.
•If one decides to use UV lights…what one(s) should be used? There are many different types on the market which vary in strength/dose/output of UV provided. One UV light is just that – one UV light. There are fluorescent bulbs that vary in UVA and UVB outputs (2-10%), compact fluorescents, incandescent “full spectrum”, halogen, sun lamps, mercury vapor, black lights, etc. Very confusing for the average caudate hobbyist. How might we define ‘low level’. When someone is using a UV light and their animal starts having skin or eye problems, I typically feel that the UV light should be removed.
•How to use in a vivarium…. using a mole salamander as an example. If one has a 10 gallon tank even with hides, it may be difficult for the animal to escape the UV from a fluorescent tube light (many moles tend to show their faces even under hides). It would be a different story for a 40 gallon viv with a small UV light at one end or perhaps in a densely planted aquarium with lots of hides.
From a pathological standpoint, corneal opacities and skin discoloration in amphibians have been suspected as a result from UV lights. Amphibians can get sunburned (erythema, blistering, sloughing) if exposed to direct sun light and I might assume this could be extrapolated to UV light if intense. Experimental high doses of UVB radiation have produced skin erosions and ulceration in one species of newt. In work done with anuran eggs and tadpoles, high levels of UVB produced ocular lesions, skin thickening and hyperpigmentation. I’m a bit concerned (perhaps unreasonably so) with an inexperienced caudate keeper who uses a reptile UV light set-up….and I caution against this.
Again, as the question of necessity of UV lights for caudates is often asked – it would seem a topic worthy of discussion. I would welcome other’s thoughts on this and any data anyone may have to share or experiences positive or negative. If we understand low-level UV light to be beneficial – what are we defining as low-level and for what photoperiod per day?
As there seems to be a paucity of hard data, if you have any experience with using UV light either positive or negative it would be beneficial to share your experiences. Perhaps we can generate some anecdotal information - caudata.org would seem to be the perfect place to explore this. If you have experience, would you mind sharing:
1. What your set up is - type of viv, type of UV light/UV output, distance of light from viv floor, light covering whole viv or just one section, etc
2. What photoperiod do you use per day of UV light
3. For what species do you use UV light and are they typical or atypical in coloration (e.g., albino axolotl vs. wild type color)
4. For what length of time have you used (are using) UV light
5. Why you decided to use UV light
6. Description of positive or negative outcomes associated with UV light use
7. Any other information you think would contribute to the discusssion
Thanks much
Jan
There are several considerations that come to my mind when discussing UV light needs. A few of these:
•What is the natural UV light environment inhabited by the species
•Sensitivity of the skin to UV light and resistance to UV damage. I believe that in lizards there are varying degrees of sensitivity e.g., nocturnal leopard geckos vs. bearded dragons, green iguanas, etc. that suggest different UV needs. Snakes I believe also vary in their need for UV light. Does the same exist for caudates and does the caudate skin secrete photo protectants (assumable to some degree?)… and does this vary by species.
•Do caudates which are mostly nocturnal, need UVB to synthesize/activate vitD or can this vitamin be adequately supplemented in the diet.
•If needed, how much UV is needed? At what levels and for what time period. It would seem that even nocturnal animals are exposed to some low levels of diffuse or reflected UV light when in hiding during the day.
•If one decides to use UV lights…what one(s) should be used? There are many different types on the market which vary in strength/dose/output of UV provided. One UV light is just that – one UV light. There are fluorescent bulbs that vary in UVA and UVB outputs (2-10%), compact fluorescents, incandescent “full spectrum”, halogen, sun lamps, mercury vapor, black lights, etc. Very confusing for the average caudate hobbyist. How might we define ‘low level’. When someone is using a UV light and their animal starts having skin or eye problems, I typically feel that the UV light should be removed.
•How to use in a vivarium…. using a mole salamander as an example. If one has a 10 gallon tank even with hides, it may be difficult for the animal to escape the UV from a fluorescent tube light (many moles tend to show their faces even under hides). It would be a different story for a 40 gallon viv with a small UV light at one end or perhaps in a densely planted aquarium with lots of hides.
From a pathological standpoint, corneal opacities and skin discoloration in amphibians have been suspected as a result from UV lights. Amphibians can get sunburned (erythema, blistering, sloughing) if exposed to direct sun light and I might assume this could be extrapolated to UV light if intense. Experimental high doses of UVB radiation have produced skin erosions and ulceration in one species of newt. In work done with anuran eggs and tadpoles, high levels of UVB produced ocular lesions, skin thickening and hyperpigmentation. I’m a bit concerned (perhaps unreasonably so) with an inexperienced caudate keeper who uses a reptile UV light set-up….and I caution against this.
Again, as the question of necessity of UV lights for caudates is often asked – it would seem a topic worthy of discussion. I would welcome other’s thoughts on this and any data anyone may have to share or experiences positive or negative. If we understand low-level UV light to be beneficial – what are we defining as low-level and for what photoperiod per day?
As there seems to be a paucity of hard data, if you have any experience with using UV light either positive or negative it would be beneficial to share your experiences. Perhaps we can generate some anecdotal information - caudata.org would seem to be the perfect place to explore this. If you have experience, would you mind sharing:
1. What your set up is - type of viv, type of UV light/UV output, distance of light from viv floor, light covering whole viv or just one section, etc
2. What photoperiod do you use per day of UV light
3. For what species do you use UV light and are they typical or atypical in coloration (e.g., albino axolotl vs. wild type color)
4. For what length of time have you used (are using) UV light
5. Why you decided to use UV light
6. Description of positive or negative outcomes associated with UV light use
7. Any other information you think would contribute to the discusssion
Thanks much
Jan